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    Default backlogs ....

    How long can/should police keep a suspect drive/pc before they run out of time to bring a prosecution?

    Do the police need a first response investigation ie an initial "quick look" to verify whether a PC has actually got any illicit material on it?

    Is it fair to let it go on so long with a cloud of suspicion hovering over a suspect.

    http://www.theregister.co.uk/2009/04...ive_forensics/

    is remote forensics the way forward ?

    Kern
    These are my personal views and in no way reflect that of Disklabs Computer Forensics

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    Default Not a change in the law, just a change in atitude

    I’m only a novice in the FC world (meaning I’ve just completed my 1st yr at De Montfort Uni), but I’m a little confused by the question posed!

    For a start, why would they have to do a remote search if the hard-drive as already been seized?

    If the hard-drives are in the possession on the police, albeit in another part of the country to a force that requires it, surely it comes down to communication. If the drives are sat on a ‘shelf’ waiting processing, and that will not take place for 18 months and the data may be of use to another force, why can it not be requested by a force so long as they can prove that it relates to a case they are building? They would have to have proved it anyway if they were the ones who initiated the original warrant.
    It would then come down to which case should take precedence, and whether a joint operation should take place.

    If forces are investigating the same people knowingly, and not sharing information then this is a waste of resources. If the budgets get divided up between more and more Hi-Tech or E-Crime units we will never solve this problem. Each unit needs a management structure and they don’t come cheap – so we end up protecting our positions (salaries) and not the public!

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    Quote Originally Posted by kern View Post
    How long can/should police keep a suspect drive/pc before they run out of time to bring a prosecution?
    Are there currently no limits or does it depend on the potential crime?

    backlogs of unsearched seized hard drives were typically 18 to 24 months for the UK's 43 police forces.
    Are police forces not recruiting if there are such long back logs?

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    An option : ?

    SPEKTOR is a brand new tool developed by Milton Keynes based company Evidence Talks.

    SPEKTOR is a front line intial investigation tool, designed to be used by police officiers to decided if, in the first instance, there could be a reason to launch a full investigation.

    Uses could include airport police, ports authorities, military and police forces.

    Have a look at the website and at the press release at the following links :

    http://www.evidencetalks.com/spektor.html
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    CF@UNN

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beerbaron View Post
    Are there currently no limits or does it depend on the potential crime?



    Are police forces not recruiting if there are such long back logs?
    Suprisingly not all police forces are recruiting. This is always down to funding.

    Ironically, when they dont pay for new staff and facilities, thier backlogs get longer and their outsourcing bills get bigger.

    Police huh?!

    Regards,

    Simon

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    I know Leeds currently have a backlog of 6 months, someone I know had his pc equipment confiscated pending an investgation (don't know what they are looking for or what he was arrested for, other than it is something to do with his ex employer). He has been told to expect his equipment back early 2010.

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    Cash. Cold hard currency. That's what it's all down to. More funding from central government means more, better everything. 'Til then, backlogs will keep mounting, and as Simon says, outsourcing bills will rise and rise (not that Simon's complaining, I suppose! )

    Ryan

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    One of the big problems is the KPI that the government sets, (Key Performance Indicators). This means that the police are only measured on certain areas. This generally means that all resources are targetted there, rather than where the crime is. Computer misuse is a great example. If you report a computer misuse crime, odds are the computer will never get looked at - because paedophile jobs get rushed, (rightly), to the top of the priorities list, meaning that your job never gets near enough to the top of the list to be dealt with.

    Thats a bif of food for thought for you?

    Regards,

    Simon

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